The double tongue with dual citizenship
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http://reginevancleev.blogspot.com/2010/02/arena-mit-afshar . html
from an interview of the World Week 3 / 05 with Afshar
The World Week (3 / 05) writes:
"revealing are Afshar statements on Sharia. This is nothing but a "source of law-finding", a method by which one Islamic law could be derived. She was not a law. To the objection that this was contrary to the accepted definition, obtained from Afshar to a digression on the colonial history and the introduction of European legal systems in Islamic countries, and then give that will used for example in Saudi Arabia a "very strict criminal law. Since the governments of such countries but its own people the freedom withheld and abused the religion to justify political repression, if they were already "contrary to Islamic law."
then collected Afshar again, reports on the five different schools of law within the Islam and the "incredible advanced "instrument" Ischtihad, "the one" interpretation of the Koran according to requirements enables the present ". Finally, he points out that no Muslim should feel bound to a religious opinion - a preposterous statement, you think of the Rushdie case and the death sentences against homosexuals or adulterers in Iran.
After half an hour we still do not know how Afshar is the Sharia and the postulated severe corporal punishment in it. The head of the Islamichen Centre in Geneva, defended the punishment of stoning is well known, while his brother Tariq is merely a "moratorium" with respect to could struggle through the application of Sharia punishments.
WW: Can you, Mr Afshar distance themselves from the Sharia?
M: It is absurd to try to distance themselves from the Sharia: It is a legal recognition method to analyze the course of justice, and this method has no statements.
WW: Please be more specific.
AF: I do not know what represents Mr. Ramadan. But let's look at the stoning. Stoning is first, not Islamic, but of Semitic origin. The most famous parable about the stoning they have in Christianity. If you want to understand Islamic law, we must know the sources. The stoning is from the Bible. Even Jesus is not distancing itself from the Stoning, by saying those should cast the first stone, who have no sins. In Islam, one goes far beyond that. It is up to the judge, the mitzuberücksichtigen the traditions of a country.
WW: Once again, the stoning is provided in the traditional Islamic criminal law, and the brothers say Ramadan, the leave will not change. Why did you not publicly dissociate themselves from the views of the brothers Ramadan?
M: I need not to distance himself from Hani Ramadan. I think his views are refuted by Islam. As a Muslim he would have to kindly respect the Swiss constitution. say in reference to the stoning is necessary to: it is the judge free to impose the maximum penalty. Even when Christ is no longer. Even before Islam could not enforce the stoning without violating religious laws. For every Muslim Jesus is incredibly important. (Holt) We can not go back behind Jesus. If he has already prevented the stoning, a Muslim is required to further inquiry in this tradition and think: what is required by today's time?
WW: stoning, Mr Afshar, are still practiced in Islamic countries. For example, in Iran. There is even a teenager at the moment because of "lewd" sexual acts are stoned. What do they think?
(There were others an adolescent who should be stoned, hanged instead of what was shown in the Süddeutsche as human progress of the advanced woman Katajun Amir Pour. The sickle)
Af. Actually, there is no stoning in Iran as far as I know ...
(This also Mr Khatami told in each case on European trip, see, for example, the newsletter of the Christian "club versus fundamentalism" in Basel), if such a thing happen, then in remote areas of the Iran. Mr Khatami respectively forgot that the stoning to be no matter what part of Iran respectively granted by the Court in Tehran. And his complacent Swiss interviewer, Roger de Weck, forgot to ask him specifically. The sickle)
Af. ... But it is relatively easy to determine for you the have to just call the embassy and get information about let the Justice Department.
WW: You should be aware of these things as an Iranian-Swiss citizens ..
Af .. I would say after today's case it should not happen.
Then ask the World Week again, whether he meant that women in Iran would no longer stoned as adulterers what Afshar meanders like a snake and said that he knew of "statements of the Minister of Justice" that we must change the law "so "that" the time is. "
When asked, "Do you believe the statements of the minister," Afshar replied: "Yes. Until I learn otherwise. "
The man then simply refuses to admit that he of course knows the law and practiced in Iran, it would be absurd, he wanted to distance himself of what he himself says. He talks himself out of alleged "statements" of anyone who has said that the law must be "adjusted", which is completely unverifiable and a mockery, given the practice of Sharia law in Iran. But as the time is the time of Allah, is probably also clear who is who needs to adjust before, during and after the stoning.
"Opaque" writes the World week, were also Afshar's relations with Iran. (We find this very transparent DS.)
WW: Different informants to report on his regular visits to the Iranian Embassy in Bern as well as on frequent trips to Iran.
Afshar is also President of the Swiss Agency's Iran (NIKU) and another aid organization, called the International Charity Organization (ICO). (Sounds like the charities Hezbollah or Hamas dS.)
WW: In view of the fact that Farhad Afshar restrictions on religious freedom of Muslims in Switzerland has repeatedly criticized with harsh words, it is amazing that he can hardly be related to the serious human rights violations in its old home expresses ..
We find it anything amazing. What has been expected because the dual citizen with the double tongue, which is split with him as well as in Ramadan? That this is a representative of a moderate peaceful religion speaks? As for the serious human rights abuses in Islamic countries machislamischem right, then the official is not without any interference by Farhad Afshar in Switzerland noted it already provides the Commission against Racism. And the Swiss world ethicists Küng unbelievers brings in a brochure entitled "Muslims in Switzerland," which he wrote the preface, the necessary respect for the barbarities of the religion of the law in by explaining about the contemptuous of women slave be marriage law of Islam, which millions of women in sub-human status to fall victim to a lifelong sexual slavery: there are probably "isolated tragedies," said Master Kung (of which one but not so much should make a fuss? vrgl.> Being Born as Muslim Woman
http://reginevancleev.blogspot.com/2010/02/being-born-as-muslim-woman.html
The patriarchal alliance is now united in the>> Council the religions of Bern, to show off with the father-right triple reinforced and the women will teach mores.
Regine van Cleeve
May 2006
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second June 2006
Ambiguous statements to stoning
Who Farhad Afshar?
By Prof. Dr. Eberhard Hamer, Head of SME Department, Hannover / Germany
Bern's Muslim Farhad Afshar is the most important contact in the so-called inter-religious dialogue. Who is this man?
Hardly a discussion on inter-religious dialogue takes place in Switzerland busy without the Bernese sociologist Farhad Afshar. The Iranian-Swiss dual citizen is president of the advocacy group co-ordination of Islamic organizations in Switzerland (KIOS). He sits as the sole representative of Muslims in the country of the Council of Churches launched religions. He is the hub of many interfaith projects. Afshar is also active in the training of imams in Switzerland. He worked mainly with the Iranian Foreign Ministry and Shiite clerics. The President of the
KIOS will lay claim to represent Muslims in Switzerland. He is a representative of the Shiite minority. So his agency is also among the Muslims as problematic. For the vast majority of coming mainly from Turkey and the Balkan Muslims in Switzerland would never accept a Shia as their representative. Afshar is acclaimed by many media as an integration Pope. He complains that Switzerland, that the Muslims had a hand in Switzerland build and Assisted in the country would now Switzerland. On the other hand, the Muslims would be no opportunity to build mosques in Switzerland to create Muslim cemeteries, to be educated Muslim religious teachers in public schools, Muslims to engage in the judicial process and the like. Especially with the latter is clearly what Mr. Afshar really wants: a kind of parallel society in which even the Sharia law would have its place. No
distancing
The head of the Islamic Centre in Geneva has known for some time openly defended the Islamic punishment of stoning. Compared to the Internet portal to online reports Afshar said literally: "It is absurd from the Sharia do to dissociate. It is a legal recognition method
further says Afshar, that the punishment of stoning so in the Bible come. Even Jesus is not distancing itself from the stoning, Afshar said on whether he wants to give a feeling that stoning actually only half-Sun bad is
The Swiss Muslim representatives will obviously declaration of emergency, if addressed to human rights violations in Iran?. Actually, there is no stoning in Iran as far as I know has Afshar one hand always hard against any restriction on the freedom of worship in Switzerland approached. On the other hand, he has expressed himself against serious human rights violations in Iran never clear let alone distanced themselves from violence in Iran. In an interview with the NZZ am Sonntag (17 July 2005), Afshar said, against the surveillance of mosques - with the argument that because of some Catholic IRA fighters Catholic churches would not be monitored.
integration of Islam?
remains Strange that Afshar is a lecturer at the University of Bern as a sociologist, however, has published almost never scientifically. *
The NZZ has recently been a sympathetic portrait of Afshar published under the title: An analyst for the integration of Islam (May 8, 2006). As to whether Islam should be incorporated in Switzerland and if not all Islamic people Faith to accept the Western customs and laws without reservation. * Note
the Sickle: This is reminiscent of the doctoral thesis of the Ramadan Muslim Brotherhood, see hompage Gudrund Eussner that has a lot to say Ramadan and the untraceable the alleged doctor Nadeem Elyas. DS)
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