Kuffar over coffee with Ramadan
or La raison dans l'islam
Ramadan and his Swiss believers among the educated
A comment on the meeting with the magazine Begley Ramadan
Regine van Cleeve
(ad Tariq Ramadan, presented by one of his Swiss admirer of the magazine BaZ http://www.dasmagazin.ch/magazin/magazin_artikel.php?ID=3T6BSM)
recommendation for the introduction of the world as the interview week with Tariq Ramadan :
"You are an arrogant man."
http://www.weltwoche.ch/artikel/?AssetID=9305&CategoryID=62
The only so far in Switzerland, in which the Islamic people has been felt on the tooth.
Begley is not arrogant person. Tariq Ramadan is the "Switzerland's most important thinkers in the world," it says there, "although it hardly a" know. "Who is the man," asks Martin Begley, although the ought to know enough at least since the interview in the World Week, which was critical to some extent as the said Baz milieu, and the Ramadan so angry was that he interview broke off. All too familiar with the Western rules of free speech seems to be the most important Swiss philosopher yet, the more comfortable in the Dhimmimedien felt than in the still regimented. Perhaps
to this violation of Islamic feelings of disrespect by the World Week irreparable, Begley has the BaZ Tagi magazine now taken Ramadan, so we can get the true picture. We are always delighted when another Swiss journalist discovered the great thinkers of Ramadan, which we have heard so much .... Yes what Mr. Ramadan is thinking now? the reconciliation of the Muslim religion with the European rule of law:
The message of this "Muslim Globetrotters" ("L'Hebdo") is the "Euro-Islam". Who thought of that because Islam is irreconcilably opposed to the Western law has never known Mr. Begley. The poses a Ramadan, with which the West is to reconcile. His criticism of Begley's a little suspicious, because the threat so as Hirsi Ali "the rule of law," we would like to reconcile with the Ramadan (the Schariarechtsstaat). (See Begley in an interview with Hirsi Ali, where is here because the rule of law *?)
Begley Ramadan is no questions that would irritate him, for Begley is not even Sarkozy.
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* Note Martin Begley said Hirsi Ali (magazine 37/06), whether it is "promising" is when "a Apostates "on the need for reform of Islam write back Ali asks:
." Slave must have been one to criticize the slave trade?
The issue of the magazine was so insidious as the usual Wadenbeisserei the yelper against Islam critic: Have they personally experienced what they write, they are not "objective." If they have not seen anything myself, what they write, they do not know what they are talking. Have they explored it scientifically, is their method incorrectly, etc. (See NZZ Ammann against Kelek.)
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Begley: "He wanted, says Ramadan, Muslims in Europe make European citizens of Muslim faith. "
Now the Muslims in Europe are indeed already mostly Europeans, but that they are not infidels, we still do not know. The young Muslims were "fascinated by the first Muslim media star, who is sitting with ministers and scholars at the same table (if it is left rvc) and also cut on the Sharia speaks like the concept of truth in Nietzsche, but preferably about the Prophet." ( About the latter we learn from Begley but unfortunately nothing seems ...)
Even Mr. Begley to be fascinated by the moratorium has indeed something fascinating for the BaZ environment. Why he has so taken with him, he wanted to meet the fascinating person that you thought you sufficiently to know from the duel with Sarkozy, but Beglinger it can not be assumed to be allowed to sit with the man at one table:
" In his native city of Geneva would be Tariq Ramadan immediately recognized and even in Paris, since he sat down in the fall of 2003, seven million viewers, with Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy on French television. But in the narrow café in London where we meet for a two-hour conversation in the midst of Christians, Sikhs and Muslims, it seems no one noticed, even though his picture last July, shortly after the London attacks, emblazoned on the front page of the "Sun". The newspaper looked like a wanted poster, and so it was meant. "
But what is the meaning of confidential meeting for Begley? Although we have never seen on a wanted poster, but who knows, maybe is not the indirect promotion of the "most important thinker of Switzerland as harmless as it does?
was "This" militant Muslim professor "the acceptable face of terror to impressionable young Muslims" and "dangerous." Than many preachers of hate, the tabloid warned his audience of millions. This Swiss, "because of contacts with terrorists" do not travel to the U.S. may belong also banished from England. "
We now know since the interview with Hirsi Ali Begley, Begley that keeps the Islamists from the exile of democracy is a threat to the rule of law.
"The call was in vain. Only days later, Tariq Ramadan was in London a lecture on Islam and the West - under the patronage of Scotland Yard. The London police chief Ramadan was explicitly protected. "
It was also the London police, who declared that he can do nothing against a Muslim anti-Jewish demonstration in Trafalgar Square, was called in to destroy Israel. The mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, took the rabble-rouser expressly protection. Ramadan, however, the adviser and protege of the Prime Minister, who famously holds the Koran for the most advanced book that he knows. (What Blair is the former German Federal President Lübke proves equal, which fell as you give him a book to have said he already had one.) Ramadan advice now Blair by the rules of the most advanced book in the world:
short "on it he summoned none other than Tony Blair in a commission to advise his government on how to keep young Muslims from sliding into terror and radicalism. Similar discussions had already Ramadan with the Dutch Prime Minister Balkenende, was in the land of the filmmaker Theo van Gogh slaughtered in November 2004 by a Muslim was, was made in retaliation for a sharp-Islam film, the Van Gogh with politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali. "
Begley holds the Quran quotes from the writer of the film Submission for sharp criticism of Islam? "Yes, what now?" He asks.
"Is the man a friend of terrorists and a threat to democracy, as its opponents call especially in France? Or one of the "100 most important thinkers of the 21st Century "," Time Magazine has chosen "" to him and the U.S. for its part seems to hold the BaZ ... (The second most important is probably Hans Saner, just be that the messages not yet been proclaimed from the minaret, but it is already time for the construction of minarets to help the less important thinkers to fame.)
Although Begley therefore not yet know who the man is, he meets in London in the café, he knows for sure, that "teaches that Tariq Ramadan since last autumn as a visiting professor at Oxford. There, he thought, "Lectures on Usul al-fiqh, the fundamentals of Islamic law."
Well, since you can know who is the man, or knows of Mr. Begley not the foundations of Islamic law, perhaps? They are not so difficult to understand, one must just read a little about the words and deeds of the Prophet, then you have it, the basics. And would have to actually know that they are incompatible with the basic laws of democracies. But the BaZ Magaziner, the do not know and wants to leave the explanation of Mr. Ramadan, which is a real rule of law with the right Islam and all its true believers. Because where would the rule of law, if it were up to Hirsi Ali!
know him outside of Geneva in Switzerland, but hardly anyone says Beglinger, or confuse you with Tariq Hani, "yet his notorious brother, who made himself as a defender of stoning to death of it." The needs are still fascinating.
"but had no other Swiss", white Beglinger, "by Roger Federer apart," had "the world's media in recent decades as more reports on Tariq Ramadan." And the city BaZ medium, which impressed the mighty man. The man was "found on all channels. No fewer than five books have been published in France since 2000 about him, among which two wild settlements with the supposedly duplicitous preachers of aggressive Islamism. A sixth book is published in the coming months, probably the first sober and well-researched biography of Ramadan, written by French journalist Ian Hamel. "(Note March 07: One more news about the Prophet as a role model has just been added)
since we are fully drawn. Also in the BaZ there should be a Mr. Hamel yes, but he writes with two mm, such as mutton, which is not found at all world channels, but was responsible for all the gossip columns in Basel. Whether he might have written the biography of Ramadan secretly?
What Mr. Begley makes us very curious but these are the two "wild statements", whose titles and authors, he tells us, unfortunately, as Ramadan had dissuaded him from it and the BaZ editors. For this we learn that it is except for one type BaZ Hamel, everything about life has collected from Ramadan. And have found no support for connections to terrorist Oranisationen of his research. We need to go no further than the compounds that Ramadan has already with his work to upgrade the Islamic ghettos. The manual of terror called the Koran and the daily terror against women is called Sharia, what more could you want? But since the terror against women and for Begley is not a terrorist, you remain the "proof" of course, guilty. The religious terrorism is not usually as a terrorist when there is no explosive in the game, but Fox and the butcher's knife and the honor killers.
For Ramadan not only has no objection in principle against stoning, but is also an advocate of hitting women, but then asks Mr. Begley does not, he would not want to spoil the good atmosphere in the café, or if Mr tune Ramadan and left the table on which one agrees so well in the democratic Islam, as in the Islamic democracy. Finally, this is not a World Week interview. For the purpose of building confidence Begley quotes now January Hamel, who in turn quotes a French official as follows:
"I never had knowledge of any connections of Ramadan with a radical organization. And common sense tells me that he would be subject to an entry barrier, if we knew of such compounds. "
The same was explained to him the Swiss news service that had also been a thorough exchange with Ramadan, tells Begley.
Now if that is so - the hats Hamel said, then it must surely agree. Maybe ask one more time in Basel Begley Mr. Hammel to who knows maybe even the one and others to contribute from his gossip columns. We also do not doubt that what Mr. Hamel has found out to Mr. Ramadan, that is nothing suspicious. Because he is looking in the wrong place. He did not need to penetrate Swiss news service, reading the Koran would have been enough, yes. But the trust in these news groups ran no one, right?. These are the basics of the law that Ramadan teaches. And Hirsi Ali has quoted from it for a screenplay. But the director was killed on the instructions of the Quran.
Ramadan is regarded not only as a protégé of Ziegler and Co in the Swiss left-wing circles, he should also get a professorship at the Catholic Notre Dame University in Indiana, which was the alliance of Islam, left, and church would be complete. Only well known that nothing was out of it, because the United States gave him no entry permit. It was true, as Begley to report white, to "violent protests in the United States against the stifling of academic freedom," which can also appear in Switzerland to be understood as Ramadan, where Voltaire performances No chance - freedom of expression on the ground, have bedeubt since the Ziegler accomplices them. The protests against the "curtailment of academic freedom" were probably from those circles that had been mobilized against a host of Jewish historian Bat Ye'or seminar at the University of Georgetown without the Rector would have defended against harassment by the Islamic side was as experienced www.secularislam.org to be> in the discussion forum years ago.
your Swiss counterparts are those of friends who tried in the court case against the Jews Frank Luebke, the viewers with brute force to prevent the observation of the trial. Something interesting in the magazine environment but not. After all, there are now two authors referred to have solved the brother Tariq: Caroline Fourest (Brother Tariq) and Lionel Favrot (Tariq Ramadan dévoilé). Whether the "wild statements" should be, which opposes Beglinger the first "sober" Ramadan's biography of Jan Hamel? As an example of quasi. For what is a genuine followers of the prophetic role model that is based entirely sober on the model according to the views of the model. As Ramadan is oriented as in his dissertation by the Geneva Uniiversiät rejected propaganda written to his grandfather al Banna hate. Except that Mr. Begley did not also oriented, neither sober nor otherwise. Ramadan and it has probably been told by the Prophet, about whom he speaks loudly Begley prefers.
No word about the good words and deeds? Why not? If you go after London, to meet the most important Swiss thinker, you should still bring home something from his favorite subject with and the expectant reader, know the Ramadan still not at all to enrich a few Müsterchen from the life of the Prophet, so they share in the revelations from the London Café can. Who was he? Already a Thomas Widmer in the world week we tried to lead the Prophet in all his gigantic size in mind, without us, but quite convincing to. Now we would like to hear of Mr. Begley, what should it be the Giants in this man? But he is silent as to do so. He would not want that the humanitarian values of Islam put an end to him, understandably.
Of all suspicion of terrorism, there remains nothing, "says Ian Hamel, having combed through Ramadan's books and articles and he also observed repeatedly in his appearances on stage in France." (And Mr. Hamel has forgotten to comb through the Koran.) Religious Terror Sharia against women is not a terrorist for the master race. calm Begley knows:
"Tariq Ramadan attacks in New York has also openly condemned as those in Madrid, Bali and London. "
who wanted him there any close to the model of Islamic terrorists and religious terror suspect? Begley report even know that Ramadan at the "destruction of Israel" hold on (at the meeting in the café.) And say: ". Nothing in Islam can legitimize anti-Semitism or xenophobia"
We take note with interest that the Koran "Nothing "in Islam.
that Ramadan's grandfather and father of the 20 Islamists Century ", which to this day as a" thought leader is revered by Islamist terror groups between Sudan and Afghanistan, "in the thesis of the grandson is an honor rescue should know, that makes for Begley not particularly suspicious to stand close to the Muslim Brotherhood to be even one. He knows that the small Al-Banna "painful decades in political exile" had to spend.
from the painful decades of Islam persecuted, the way other than Ramadan and Beglinger may not be open to see in a coffee shop, if there are too many followers of Ramadan faith in the area, on this occasion is of course no question, they are not so mention it, the magazine devotes less space to them as the protagonists of the Islamization of Europe.
The Centre Islamique in Geneva, which was founded in 1961 by Tariq's father, is still one of the main hubs for Islamic-called Islamic propaganda. In London, Ramadan is also the right place. Galt London as the propaganda center of Islam, Germany, the organizational hub of terror and Switzerland and the financial, then the center in Geneva, where brother Hani, the second in the league and continue to work on the introduction of Sharia law, is still an international base of Islamization Europe, in the shadow of the UN offices located very useful by the "neutral" Switzerland "in the family emigrated. Since then the whole global relationship and cooperative spirit is back together ...
He then got to know well Ziegler friend whose wife had should help in the recognition of his doctoral work, the grandfather Al Banna for the recognition of the Ziegler circles, so much was behilfich. One hand washes the other. Sun stuck to the most important thinkers of Switzerland, as Begley reports, posters for the general election campaign of his close friend Jean Ziegler, the family of Al Banna were able to appreciate much more than the Federal candidate and Comrade Brunner, in the Kampgagnen the Federal election of Comrade Ziegler as of a Mullah was vilified. Forgot?
Ziegler has a heart for the humiliated and insulted in the world. It was Ziegler who offered at the outbreak of the Iraq war, he would personally Saddam Hussein a place to stay get in Switzerland, where he could thus prevent the war. A noble idea. Except that the noble man who was personally Hussein on a visit and was impressed by his charm, not to visit in one of his torture cellar was. But the third world movement is moving in equal measure the heart's two brothers. And of course the fate of freedom fighters against Israel. But - in the café sounded a little different from Attac. So that Begley is quite satisfied with the views. which he may bring home from the cafe with Ramadan.
course, the affair of the performance of Voltaire's play "Mahomet" in Voltaire commemorative year 1993 in Geneva spoils the good impression a little. But Begley does everything possible to allay the suspicion, at least mitigate, Ramadan had been playing as a censor in the Swiss cultural scene. The Begley would, would not so on the most important thinkers in Switzerland, the leading newspaper in Basel, namely, the single is so admired, can sit. And lo and behold, it was not Ramadan, it was Mrs. Ziegler. Cherchez la femme! Eric Deuber-Pauli called the wife, the former Geneva's cultural leader and wife of Jean Ziegler, which prevented the performance, by delivering the required 310 000 francs subsidy refused. "
She was actually, there is nothing to gloss over the complicity the couple Ziegler - only: it was Ramadan himself, "an open letter against the performance of" Mahomet "pleaded" as Begley calls the censorship demands, "because this (piece) violates the feelings of the Muslim community." (More about this site by Gudrun Eussner) more
Begley:
"But the bad smell of censorship of artistic freedom hanging to Tariq Ramadan. In 1997 he received the University of Freiburg, a lecturer in Islamic Studies, but his thesis he submitted in 1998 at the University of Geneva, which nearly ended with a scandal. Tariq Ramadan, in its work is a reinterpretation of the Muslim Brotherhood to a kind of religious social progress friends tries and also an academic vindication of his grandfather. The two French experts seemed his doctoral work however so untenable that they withdrew in protest. Since Ramadan turned his old friend and university professor Jean Ziegler, everything began to move to the thesis but still be saved. It was ordered new witness who gave his blessing to the work eventually, but even so, as hinted the mitbeurteilende Berner Islamic scholar Professor Reinhard Schulze does, because they wanted to avoid a scandal. For the rejection not only Ramadan had ended academic career, but would now also been exploited politically. Finally
his thesis is used again and again as proof that Tariq Ramadan himself could be a member of the organization that has founded what he revered his grandfather. As the grandson vehemently denies. "I was never a member of the Muslim Brotherhood." He admired while Hassan al-Banna for his anti-colonial struggle, insured Ramadan. But he has a different image of the West than his grandfather. Journalists from Le Monde, as well as Ian Hamel gefahndet have for weeks in Egypt for links between Ramadan and today's Muslim Brotherhood (which have recently risen six-fold seats in the Egyptian parliamentary elections), but even they have not found it. Even as a young teacher Tariq Ramadan, however, felt the missionary heritage and founded the organization "Muslims, Moslems de Suisse." The response was, however meager, especially in German Switzerland. Especially the immigrants from the Balkans and Turkey are often barely practicing Muslims and therefore not very interested in a man with Arab roots, who will stop at a pious life.
a first major appearance outside the Muslim community procured Ramadan with his friendship with Alain Gresh, the chief editor of the prestigious Le Monde Diplomatique. " Gresh published in conjunction with Ramadan, a book about Islam - for the latter is a worthy reception in France's intellectual salon "
Robert. Redeker in France is not acceptable. But Mr. Begley could not then know, yes.
Final Galions to the large-or stimulus figure in France made him, however, Nicolas Sarkozy, declaring himself ready, a hundred minutes on television to argue with the Swiss philosopher. It was a battle, and Ramadan, it has lost in the eyes of most non-Muslims, oppressed him as the sharp-tongued Minister on the issue of stoning of adulterous women. Whether it is from that provided for punishment in Islam, distancing oui ou non. But Ramadan squirmed and said he wanted "a moratorium".
"We thought this reply might break his neck," recalls the friend of Ramadan Freiburg theologian> Richard Friedli. He's survived, but since then Tariq Ramadan is considered by many liberals in Europe's status as a windy opportunist who can not decide, and not once has the power to distance themselves from Islamic stone-age laws. "
Not so for the left magazine .. remains his master thinker faithfully
"He's survives" is particularly good Ramadan so will survive any stoning, why should he not survive the "conversation" about
Begley: "hand, he is for the Muslim fundamentalists a traitor. And It is only right, since he had to hire an adviser to the British war in Iraq, Prime Minister Tony Blair. "
How do Begley just consider that the Islamic fundamentalists employ Ramadan for the control of the British domestic politics as a betrayal and not as a success? of Ramadan itself?
"Ramadan sees himself in the role of" bridge builder "who gets caught between the crossfire. Because the Islamic scholars on the issue of stoning were not in agreement, he plead in doubt for the victim. "
And if some would be?
We see with Gudrun Eussner the heart of Ramadan's work in Switzerland, the Islamic Center of Geneva, as Bridgehead of the Islamization of Europe. Note:
Because not Islamic scholars are unanimous on the issue of stoning, "he battered sly like a desert snake" in doubt for the victims of doubt "And when the scholars are agreed," What do you mean there. "? that the time has come for the end of the moratorium, Mr. Ramadan advocates doubt for what he has always advocated.
"And so for a perpetual moratorium on all corporal punishment, including death penalty. He condemned the stoning tel quel, but then he makes a joy Sarkozy, Ramadan said in our conversation, but in the Muslim world one would listen to him anymore because he would apply it as a Westerner. "Only with a conviction I change anything in the Muslim world."
If the hot, perhaps, the endorsement of stoning mean any change? What he once again all those who think that giving the Muslim world it is not, as Professor Waardenburg in the TV interview with Frank A. Meyer, probably aware of the same. It will be so diverse. In its essentials, the marriage law, but she seems to agree. (As in all the central issues).
"How this rocky path of change is shown by his own brother, Hani Ramadan is not even him by his Moratorium convincing. "
Why should he? Will he ever? Agree in basic belief but the two agree. The moratorium is only for television, the Hani all I need. Hani can better live with the Shariah without moratorium.
"Ironically, Hani Ramadan, 46, doctor of philosophy, and since the death of Father Said the director of the Centre Islamique, in an article for Le Monde justified the stoning as a punishment with" purifying "effect. AIDS and equal also branded as a punishment from God. Then it the Geneva government has denounced the agency as a secondary teacher at a state school, but so far the courts have Hani Ramadan law given the challenging the dismissal as an abuse. Even if he was to finally get right, Hani has thus ruined the reputation of the family in liberal circles Geneva once and forever. "
Alas. The good" reputation "of Steinigugnsfreunde is ruined. For whom? The Magazine? With Ziegler?
"Comparatively in the media shadow of Tariq and Hani is Aymen, 53, the oldest of the Ramadan brothers, who were born in Egypt. Aymen Ramadan is now a neurosurgeon in Geneva and by the way President of the Centre Islamique. According to "Nouvel Observateur" he's married his second wife with a Sudanese and there appeared regularly and for free as a doctor in use. With the "magazine" he may, however, so little talk about how his brother Hani. "
Oops. There is and but denied a source of truth!
" Because no one has time to read Tariq Ramadan's twenty-two books and all his seven hundred articles (except the intelligence ), it will always be scrutinized in the media on the same sticking points of a "Euro-Islam". And he says in the core and the same:
must follow a Muslim, the Constitution?
Ramadan: Yes.
no exception?
Ramadan: No, because the exercise of our faith is guaranteed in any European constitution.
What this tells with great thinkers Wüstenschlangenschläue, that the Constitution, but faith is followed, the Constitution guarantees. The Constitution should not be compatible with the belief that the Constitution must not be followed. It is anticipated that the Sharia is recognized as the core of this belief from the Constitution.
He could just as well say that he was for a moratorium for the next Holocaust, but for the constitutional loyalty of the Muslims. For Begley is now clear that Ramadan is a constitutional friend. When Ramadan says that, then it must surely agree that his views coincide with the stoning of the Constitution.
Begley gives us his insights into the core of Ramadan fresh from Café:
"His principles are clear. The postfixes that follow all these answers deny, not the principles, but they reveal in particular the core of this man. Tariq Ramadan is not a terrorist friend, not a threat to democracy and no anti-Semite. He is - for European terms -. A religious-conservative "
simpleton is no longer there. Ramadan is not a threat to democracy. At least no greater than Begley & co. For without the Ramadan could be none. But the "conservative" wife beating and stoning to Sharia is not enough the men. You want to further commitments to democracy, instead of saying thank you enough.
Begley has not realized that not only the so-called political terror, but also the daily terror of the Sharia, which is the religion of terror against women is terror, whether with or without the moratorium. " The press man of the Swiss Islam lobby is full of the Islamists into the trap and slimes together with him. His critics, he finds "wild." The stoning of Mr. Begley does not make wild. Him out the cold.
Yes, the woman has the right to wear a veil - such as Ramadan's secretary in Paris. But he certainly believes it is better that she wears a - like his own wife and his little daughter.
In other words, he is not opposed to a woman on which he has no power, with no veil, but at home there's not. There must also believe the daughter to it. All right, Mr. Begley?
Yes, mixed marriages are permitted, Ramadan's wife, Swiss-French dual citizen and is originally a Christian, converted to Islam.
Yes what else! A Muslim woman may not marry unbelievers, but of course the Muslim man can marry a Dhimmifrau as a helper, so that they obeyed him and converted.
And yes, Ayaan Hirsi Ali has a right to say what she wants. (Like Salman Rushdie, too.) But moral Ramadan has its critics wrong.
What looks like this right in the real existing Islam, he does not ask better. Even Begley containing the criticism of Islam by Hirsi Ali is wrong. It threatens yes "the rule of law." In contrast to Ramadan. As the two brothers are together right.
Ramadan: "How can you influence a billion Muslims, if they are simply offended only by saying that the Prophet would apply to today's standards as a pedophile"
Muslims who may operate the child abuse is quite legal as child marriage, may not be offended by telling them that child rape and forced marriage are a crime. Begley not offended Ramadan. If Millions of Muslims the right to marry have children, then child abuse is legal.
"Tariq Ramadan wants to be out of the fifteen million Muslims in Western Europe devout Muslims, confident and not, as now, in 85 or 90 percent of Muslims paper without practice
remain live but following the example of the Prophet." The
Propeht lived in polygamy, and took along with the various female slaves from the war spoils a child as a wife.
"This is what many Europeans fear basically believes Professor Richard Friedli Freiburg. In secular Europe so self-conscious and mission of religious moralist like Tariq Ramadan is a provocation.
Ramadan calls" real Pluralism, "but he does not believe in integration, the Europeans will then succeed as if the Muslim is not to be noted that he is one;. If the religion has so retreated into a purely private, like most Christians"
so is this Islamic religious law that is also publicly recognized. state religion Islam with Sharia law? As in India, or what says the Lord, that religion should not be a private matter?
"European Muslims, like to wish Ramadan they , cease to long for their old home. Instead, they mix into their new, talk with them, choose to go, they learn the rules know and along with the duties finally their rights, which grant them the Western constitutions. "interfere
how they can Begley experience in Londonistan. But he will not even know. He prefers to be taught by the Islamists.
" But to react the Europe of empty country churches and the deep
irritated birth rates, says the religious scholar Friedli. "
Higher birth rates à la Ramadan religion? Professor Friedli chats from a naivety which is intended to fill the churches. The belief in the Men God, which guarantees the Gebärsoll. And when the women no longer believe in the divine right of men and birth control to operate, then you are confused ... ... Ramadan sees this irritation.
"He sees the creeping fear of cultural domination, which is behind the dispute over any proposed new minaret."
It is the legitimate rejection of a new religious dictatorship! Tariq Ramadan says:
"The fifteen million Muslims in Western Europe is a fact, whether one likes it or not. And they will change the homogeneity of the old European culture. True democracy also means to share power, but that some people stop here for a threat. "
parts of what? With an anti-democratic totalitarian religious regime? If the democracy with a dictatorship "Shared" to be Islamic?
"Ramadan is on" shared universal values "of Western democracy and Islam;. On values such as democracy, rule of law, equality of citizens and universal suffrage"
common values such as rabbits and snakes. After eating, they are particularly common. As the "universal" human rights declaration of Cairo? But that does not know Begley. It can be Islam without protest as a "common values" to sell, does not contradict this common and dangerous nonsense served on the readers. Democracy and rule of law as Islamic values! a particularly high value in Islam is the religion of freedom, as it is committed against the apostates.
brings him nothing faster in a rage, as if he senses a Western arrogance that denies Islam precisely those values and the Koran nurmehr sees a reactionary and useless teaching.
Nothing brings the Islamists more furious than the truth about Islam. For the BaZ editorial like the values of the Koran are so common values they share with the Muslim Brotherhood. Whether these are also the value of battered women, we want to doubt.
"In such situations, he moved sharply against the" Western arrogance "going on, what his opponents are waiting, and then rejoice, now Ramadan has finally shown its true face, that of outmoded, narrow-minded concrete Islamists. "
not worry, this is well known. Here only is the face of a Baz-Magazine revealed, but even that is not so new. That Begley feels Ramadan is much closer than his opponents, was later than the interview with Hirsi Ali clearly. critics of Islam are made condescending contempt because the bloody facts prove them right. A primitive form of arg defamation of Islam criticism that has long been analyzed, what about the Begley not, do not understand and do not want to admit. Or just dishonest not to admit it follows the flattest of all the platitudes islamophile:.. the "enemy image" of Islam critic
The Islamic enemy - the infidels, the West - Begley seems not to know. The criticism of Ramadan Muslim countries such as the West over we can go, it's the old records, the "reformers" is so critical. For Sarkozy, he remained an "unreliable", not so for Begley, who knows:
"He is certain to Nicolas Sarkozy, the" Islamists "as Ramadan is now suspected of acting as ideological accelerant in the banlieues. His own intelligence agencies, however, assure the opposite, namely that no perpetrators were and identify the problems at the social and maybe not religious NATURE. says exactly the same Tariq Ramadan, who speaks of "territorial and social apartheid".
exactly what want to hear the Left in France and Switzerland also that it is the Islamic 'culture' is not such an act, but only of "social" issues that have nothing to do with Islam. (Also if the left is his communitarian views are a bit fishy ...) What does he mean by problems?
Does he perhaps the Islamic gender apartheid? Why then, are the French domestic unemployed not just violence against women and the Muslim "youths", why live French people do not like polygamy in the Muslim banlieue, where it is tolerated full? For polygamy presents the Muslim Machos still with all the social problems that creates and perpetuates the same Islam.
that Ramadan spoke out against the violence in the banlieues, has other innocent interviewer, such as that of "Mirror", also "surprised" ... Propagandists of a violent religion are of course "against the violence." What Begley as expected?
Ramadan: "The restoration of order is of course paramount"
Certainly, the question is, which order Ramadan as the definitive in his head.. That question Begley not granted. Because he can under Sharia imagine anything. Therefore he must have been the ideal interlocutor for coffee with Ramadan.
"Back in the café in London. Tariq Ramadan dates, he must continue to soon to Mauritius, but at first the French Clermont-Ferrand, where he is invited to a philosophical colloquium on "La raison dans l'islam». Day the event is canceled. The university authorities to know you can ask him for a Monsieur like him no room available. It is Ramadan thirteenth radius in the last eighteen months. "
trust Apparently the University of the reason of Islam but not quite.
